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Stalinist health care

  

by: hotflash

Sat Nov 07, 2009 at 16:15:49 PM CST


A press release titled "Wash U. Students Build Memorial to Victims of Socialism" landed in my inbox:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

The students of Young Americans for Liberty are hosting a rally to commemorate the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall at NOON on Monday November 9th, 2009, on the lawn outside the Ann W. Olin Women's Building.

Students will be constructing a memorial to the victims of socialism as a stark reminder of the horrors of socialism, and of its victims.

"We're hoping to elevate the thinking of students about the connection between socialism, tyranny, and murder. Too often, we tend to think about state control in the abstract. This event is an opportunity to show the student body what socialism really is," said junior Dirk Doebler, student leader of Young Americans for Liberty and lead organizer of the event. "We're just twenty years away from the collapse of the Soviet Union's despotic enslavement of hundreds of millions of people, yet everyone seems to forget that socialism killed over 150,000,000 people in the 20th century. All that gets lost in the convenient narrative our professors would have us believe. With this event, we're striking down false notions. We're speaking truth to power."

Young Americans for Liberty is a growing student group at Washington University in St. Louis. YAL agrees with Nobel Laureate in economics Frederick Hayek, that socialism leads to totalitarianism. Socialism is a faulty idea that kills. This event aims at showing the horrors of the implementation of that idea.

Could it be that these students are urging others to attempt a certain leap of logic? To wit, that a part of the world that moved from one autocratic system of governance (a tsarist regime) to another (Stalinism) should serve as a warning against the Democrats' attempt to institute universal health care in this country?

Oh.

Quick. Somebody get on the horn to Europe to warn all those democracies that they're already thirty years down the road toward becoming Stalinist/Maoist dictatorships. Thank god there's still time to avoid that fate here.

But I fear that students at that bastion of liberalism, Washington University, will take a look at this piece of theater, roll their eyes, and attend their 1:15 classes, granting all due respect to their left wing professors.

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Pretty full of themselves I'd say: (0.00 / 0)
We're speaking truth to power.

Nothing like a group of middle and upper middle class young people at an elite institution standing up for the status quo.  The sheer bravery is overwhelming.

It's also ironic, since, if they know anything about Hayek whom they cite, they must realize that his concept of freedom was relative to say the least, and mostly confined to the workings of the market if I remember correctly.  During his life, he was a supporter of Pinochet in Chile, stating that he preferred dictatorship to the wrong type of democracy, which would, presumably, be a democracy dedicated to social justice, a concept he eschewed.    


Thank you for the info on Hayek. (0.00 / 0)
But I'm not sure that their respect for him is ironic. He may be exactly the sort of person they admire. If Pinochet were still in power, perhaps they would approve of him.

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You're probably right about the issue of irony ... (0.00 / 0)
except as the entire movement with its rhetoric about freedom, etc. is ironic.

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Stalinist health care (0.00 / 0)
I have the utmost respect for the world of ideas.Academics and intellectuals enrich our brain trust. They also enjoy the luxury of never having to manage or motivate an organization or other than publishing, produce results. In my opinion, the paradigms of East Coast Intellectuals are either misplaced or extinct and help Conservatives win Independents by default.

You say: (0.00 / 0)
They also enjoy the luxury of never having to manage or motivate an organization or other than publishing, produce results.

Try telling that to someone running a large research project with multiple researchers and big budgets -- all contingent on meaningful results.  


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Labels are not always the end-all and be-all ... (0.00 / 0)
if for communism, Stalinism, Maoism, etc. applied to the Soviet Union or China, one substittuted "Statism," as Michael Harrington suggests in his remarks on the fall of the Soviet Union (I don't have the reference at hand), one might have a truer idea of what is implied.  

In the same way, although the supporting dogma was different Nazism and facism are also statist idelogies.  So when conservatives are talking about the similarities between facism and communism they are onto something -- although the similarities have nothing to do with the communist tenets per se, but rather with the flawed implementstion of the communist ideology in the two largest communist experiments during the 20th century.  


Statism is an excellent description (0.00 / 0)
of all those flawed governments. And it is a propensity toward statism that too often characterized the Bush years, with that administration's willingness to spy on Americans and to wrap themselves in the flag. They proclaimed anyone who thought for himself about the wisdom of his policies as being anti-American. That tactic is a habit of Republicans.

I notice, by the way, that the Germans are planning a huge and colorful demonstration today to commemorate the 20th year since the fall of the Berlin Wall. Oddly enough, though, they don't seem to fear that there's a connection between Stalinism and social programs like universal health care.


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